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Mick Mulvaney says a ‘friend’ in the White House said former Trump chief of staff Mark Meadows was incompetent and had a ‘nervous breakdown’ on January 6

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Mark Meadows, right, speaks with Mick Mulvaney in the Oval Office on March 12, 2020.Chip Somodevilla/Getty Images

  • Mick Mulvaney during a CBS interview questioned Mark Meadows’ response to the January 6, 2021 riot.

  • “My words were, ‘Was Mark having a nervous breakdown? or was he so incompetent to respond or a bit of both,” he said.

  • Mulvaney said “there is no reason” Cassidy Hutchinson lied during her sworn testimony.

Former Office of Management and Budget director Mick Mulvaney said in an interview Friday that a “friend” in the White House during the Capitol riot on Jan. 6, 2021, remarked that the leader Trump’s cabinet minister, Mark Meadows, showed incompetence and had a “nervous breakdown” as chaos ensued just blocks away.

During an interview on CBS News, Mulvaney — who served as the White House’s acting chief of staff from January 2019 to March 2020 before Meadows succeeded him — expressed confidence in the testimony of Cassidy Hutchinson, the former Meadows aide who late last month gave bombshell testimony before the House committee investigating the riot.

Mulvaney said that while Hutchinson was testifying before the committee, where she alleged former President Donald Trump tried to grab the steering wheel of his SUV while demanding to be taken to the Capitol on Jan. 6, he texted to a friend who was out west. Wing on January 6.

“I said, ‘If I listen to Cassidy carefully, it sounds like Mark was either completely incompetent at work or had a nervous breakdown,’ and the person texted back, ‘A bit of both'” , Mulvaney said. during the interview.

“So you kind of feel like things had really fallen apart and Mark Meadows as chief of staff – which is a critical position, especially at these critical times – had fully checked out,” a- he added.

Hutchinson during her June testimony spoke of the exasperation she felt at Meadows’ lack of urgency when the Capitol was ransacked.

“I’m starting to get frustrated because I felt like I was seeing a bad car accident about to happen where you can’t stop it but you want to be able to do something about it,” she said. at the time. “I remember thinking at the time, ‘Mark has to get out of this and I don’t know how to get him out of this, but he has to care.'”

Mulvaney, who also served in the House from 2011 to 2017 and as special envoy to Northern Ireland from May 2020 to January 2021, reiterated during the CBS interview that it appeared Meadows was not aware of the situation unfolding at the Capitol.

“My words were, ‘Was Mark having a nervous breakdown? or was he so incompetent to answer or a bit of both. This would largely explain the collapse of the West Wing,” the former lawmaker said.

Mick Mulvaney says a ‘friend’ in the White House said former Trump chief of staff Mark Meadows was incompetent and had a ‘nervous breakdown’ on January 6

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Mick Mulvaney, former director of the Office of Management and Budget.Manuel Balce Ceneta/AP Images

When Mulvaney was asked what was his “tipping point” as a longtime Trump supporter, he spoke about Hutchinson’s testimony before the panel.

“I’ve defended the president for the past year that I don’t believe his actions on January 6 were criminal,” he said. “I didn’t specifically believe he incited a riot. I resigned because I think he failed to be president when we needed him to be.”

“But I defended her against charges of criminal activity until Cassidy Hutchinson testified. Again, I know her. She works for me. There’s no reason for her to lie. If she comes up and says the president knew there were guns, that scratches my head,” he added.

However, despite his high regard for Hutchinson, Mulvaney said he “wasn’t a big fan” of the January 6 hearings.

“I thought they should have allowed the Republicans to put people on the committee that they should have – that Jim Jordan should be there, Andy Biggs should be there. And that Nancy Pelosi was wrong to put them out. That violated the customs and history of the United States House of Representatives,” he said.

“I was never a fan of this committee and always thought it was wrong for Liz [Cheney] and Adam Kinzinger to go there. For this reason, whenever Liz speaks, I don’t believe it. I refuse to believe in the interpretation of the facts,” he added.

Last year, Speaker Pelosi refused Jordan, a congressman from Ohio, to join the Jan. 6 panel after raising objections to the results of the 2020 presidential election. Biggs, a lawmaker from the Arizona, called the committee “illegitimate.”

Cheney and Kinzinger were selected for the Jan. 6 committee and became its only Republican members.

Mulvaney later said that despite his doubts about the panel, he could not ignore the compelling sworn testimony of a fellow Republican.

“When a Republican takes an oath and says something about a Republican president trying to nullify an election, I pay attention to that,” he said. “When Republicans publicly say that other Republicans may have broken the law, I think all Republicans should look at that. In fact, I think everyone should.”

Insider has reached out to Meadows for comment.

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