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“I don’t agree with you at all”

Frank Warren and Simon Jordan shared an interesting debate on talkSPORT on Friday as they discussed the undercard for Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte.

The WBC world heavyweight fight will be live on talkSPORT on April 23 and is highly anticipated, although not everyone is convinced by the previous fights.

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Fury is co-promoted by Warren and Bob Arum

On Thursday, Jordan slammed the card, prompting Warren to join the White and Jordan show on Friday and have a say in response.

“Let me first tell you what happened. Wembley – we can’t get in until 6pm. So at 6 p.m. the doors open and the fighting begins.

“That’s a good fight undercard,” replied Fury’s British co-promoter.

“The ring needs to be cleared at 9:30 p.m. because Tyson’s fight will be at 10 p.m., because there’s a curfew there, we can’t be there after 11 p.m.

“So we have three and a half hours for boxing, we have seven fights in those three and a half hours.

“I would have loved to put Anthony Yarde on, but unfortunately I can’t risk him fighting at the moment.

“Joe Smith Jr fights Artur Beterbiev for the [WBC, IBF and WBO light-heavyweight] unification fight in about eight weeks.

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Whyte has the WBC ‘interim’ belt, while Fury is the WBC world heavyweight champion

“He [Yarde] has the winner, so I don’t want him to get hurt. Even if he was there, I would have given him a pretty easy job because I don’t want him to risk that position – and I’d probably have a stick for it.

“Daniel Dubois, I wish he was on the undercard, but he has the WBA [‘regular’] heavyweight title fight, so he can’t be there.

“I wish he had the exhibit on the card.

“Joe Joyce has a broken wrist, I can’t get him up there.

“Hamzah Sheeraz – it’s Ramadan, so he can’t box.

“That’s where we are, so what we’ve done is make some real good quality fights that will be good fights to watch.

“Cacace is the British champion, he is 19-1, he is fighting the former world champion who is 34-1.

“It’s a good competitive fight that will be a crowd pleaser.

“I don’t agree with you at all”

Yarde and Dubois are two of Warren’s biggest talents, but won’t feature on this card

“Tyson, every time he fights his great friend Isaac Lowe fights on the map. He’s with a young boy called Nick Ball who’s 14-0.

“Nick Ball, you’re gonna like him, it’s going to be a war. I really like Nick Ball, he’s fought a lot of world champions like Josh Warrington and they’ll tell you how tough he is.

“We also have David Adeleye there, a promising young heavyweight.

“Tommy Fury is over there, he was supposed to have fought Jake Paul, but he had a rib injury.

“He’s back and he’ll be there to fight a decent guy from Poland.

“We have the youth 2018 [Olympics] gold medalist, one of our young Karol Itauma. He is an eight-time national champion.

“We also have Royston Barney-Smith. He is 18 years old, has just turned professional, double European gold medalist. Won 36 out of 37 fights while representing England.

“And we have young Kurt Walker who is 1-0. These are good fights.

“I don’t agree with you at all”


Young heavyweight Adeleye is on the bill

Asked by Jim White if he can relate to some of the criticism, Warren replied: “Yes, I understand.

“I understand what is being said, but we are putting seven fights on the undercard.

“The last time there was a world title fight at Wembley there were four fights under the card.

“We can only work with what we have, we’re not magicians and that’s a good fight card.”

At this point, Jordan said, “I made a few comments about it yesterday because I wasn’t overwhelmed by it.

“I’m watching the Froch vs Groves undercard which is in the same stadium with the same restrictions.

“I don’t agree with you at all”


Jordan not impressed with quality of Fury vs Whyte undercard

“I look at James DeGale, I look at Kevin Mitchell, I look at Jamie McDonnell, I look at Anthony Joshua and I go, ‘Hmm.’

“I understand the dynamics of the challenges you have, but if I look at a card with this kind of signature event for one of the biggest British fights in some time that you’ve paid a massive amount of money for – J Feel like at a price of £25 it’s not a good undercard.

Warren replied, “Well, I totally disagree with you on that, obviously Simon.

“It’s fighting, and fighting is about having fun and it’s even money fighting.

“The Lowe vs Ball fight is for the WBC ‘silver’ featherweight belt which puts them in a high rating and the other fight [Cacace vs Romero] do the same.

“Both of these fights are competitive fights.

“It’s going to be good fights for the fans to watch, competitive.”

“I don’t agree with you at all”

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Tommy Fury will be back in action on the undercard

Jordan countered, “I would have expected another marquee fight Frank, that’s my point.”

To which Warren replied, “Well, I get that, I hear what you’re saying and I get that, and by the way we’re still working on another fight.

“And if I do that, I have to take someone off the map.

“So we’re still working, but if you want to see fights where guys are going to stand up and trade with each other, those two fights will be effective.”

Jordan then asked, “Is it unfair of me to say then that all the money went to Fury and Whyte, leaving little room for more fights?”

“I don’t agree with you at all”


Warren defended the map

To which Warren conceded: “No, that’s very fair, we spent $41 million, plus all stadium rental costs, etc.

“The PPV model is very simple, it’s honest TV, people will either buy it or they won’t.

“We don’t guarantee any money, whatever they pay, we’re rolling the dice on that.

“We know what we’ve done on the tickets, but that’s a far cry from what we have to pay for them.

“And I hear where Simon is from and I understand that, we’ve put on some great shows over the years and you’ll be entertained at night.

“The thing is, these are going to be good fights and you have to keep in mind that we are limited in what we do.”

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